my entry: sums up a very long messed up post prior

[transomwhiplass]

I didnt really like that entry... it didnt really go anywhere, but I will leave it in as a document of the process of many thoughts, for future reference. That was a very complex thing there, but thinking about my thoughts (haha).. well quick sum up so you don't have to read. I am a scientific person, I like what can be proven, and I don't believe anything I can't prove. No one can prove god... so I can't believe in it. From my stand point, I see that people read too much into things, thus, we get a lot of rules out of a lot of nothing. I think its funny how the bible works and how human development did. Humans didn't believe in the monotheistic god for millions of years.. it took a series of influences: believing in things- trees, sun, natural providers... then the beliefs in the essences and spirits of these things: nature, light.. it just branched out. Then we had polytheism.. then some jews got the wise idea of monotheism.. and even then.... it remained on the continent... gradually spreading to europe from asia with wars and missionaries and stuff.... then the europeans took it and forced it on the indians who were still in the early man beliefs in nature... isn't that funny how christianity spread? a lot like small pox.. lol.... how could this be the true thing? humans have lived.. majority of their time on earth not believing in god.... rome was also the greatest empire in the world for much longer than America has existed.. i think that religion is insane... look where it has gotten us.. the start of the major religions is all in one place.. people fighting for a tiny strip of land.... if religion is so good and so divine.... how would this be possible? if everything about god is good... what is the middle east.... this is getting tangenty and I'm trying to stay away from that in my post of my post... eek.. but yeah, I think thats weird..

I talked a lot about not believing in god.... finding a purpose in life... all that.. and it got really crazy. I just want to say that I've never been sad for not missing god's love because I have never felt it. I think people need to believe in something to live because, we need the will to live to keep from killing ourselves (obviously) but something has to fuel that will. I think that my will, is just trying to find out my will (haha..).. messed up but true. It is also a reason I believe people invented god.. to give them a will to live. Its all very contradictory and philosophical sounding, but very incoherent.

I talked a lot about rules.. I understand we need rules for their not to be chaos: the universe needs rules so things can move, things can stop, and things can generally follow a path of motion so everything doesnt collide... this applies to our world. The more complex things get: the more complext our rules get and so on....

I didn't make a lot of sense.. I really was just trying to get to the point: I don't believe in god... I regret nothing.... and I don't feel sad because of it. The end.

Comments

About Science...

[peter00.livejournal.com]

You say you are a scientific person, but science is based on religion. How does science work? Through experimentation. But those experiments would be meaningless if there wasn't order in the universe. Order is a religious ideal.
Order is something science has assumed. Prove to me there's order. Strange, all of science is based on the fact that the universe is run in an orderly way.
Science is limited. It deals only with the material. Science can never deal with the immaterial, it just doesn't have the capacity to do so. Science deals only with things that can be tested. Since God is immaterial, science will never prove his existance or not, although the universe leads us to him.
You should take science, religion, and God(or soemthing like that). Its a very interesting class, in which you learn how different people take different viewpoints, and how science and religion are actually compatible. Its actually pretty interesting, its an elective next year. Take it if you're interested.

one more thing..

[peter00.livejournal.com]

"the start of the major religions is all in one place.. people fighting for a tiny strip of land.... if religion is so good and so divine.... how would this be possible"
The fact is, any fighting in the middle east is because of politics. The Jews and Palestinians, or rather, Jews and Muslims, just don't like each other.
Fighting over a strip of land isn't something that is the will of God, but rather is a Satanic temptation.
"I just want to say that I've never been sad for not missing god's love because I have never felt it"
You see, the reason is because you've never searched for it. "our heart is restless, oh lord, until it rests in you". I truly believe this quote is among the most important, because it is so true. Belief in God relieves stress. If for no other reason, believe in him, to make life easier.

[sammehtosh.livejournal.com]

yes.. I understand nothing I can say will prove anything. No one understands why science works, it just does. It makes itself work... this is why I think I forgot to talk about. I am a combination atheist/deist. The founding father's were deists and I feel that deism makes the most sense to me. I usually just say atheist so I don't have to explain deism to the hoi poloi.. but basically I believe that something did have to start the universe.. but I really don't believe in an active god.. but the "watchmaker" god... the god who does not intercede... just watches the world work. I don't know if I actively believe in this or if I just like it because it explains what I can't. But truly, I think its a little from column a and b.